Cognitive dissonance?
 

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:54:35 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:



Don't need or want 'stereo' - I work with only two channels in Sound Forge
and need one for the backing, as in this track (mixed down to mono):

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...he%20Child.wav


****e for all I know, but Swim had had that sax for less than a week at the
time, IIRC and we like it!

Oh go on, sort out a multitrack recorder (isn't there even a free
one?) and let that music fill a bit more space! The organ is crying
out to be in stereo, and a touch of stereo reverb would be lovely on
the sax. Then a bit more of a different reverb overall, just to put
everyone in the same room.

Did you play the backing track, or was it bought in?

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Keith G wrote:

Not a lot in it, but B has the edge for me. I get the impression it's
resolving more detail.

OK, Wally - noted, many thanks! I'll reveal all in due course.

Caveat - I listened on my cheapo "Advent" brand headphones. On those, I
thought the clarinet was easiest to tell apart. Mic A sounded rounder or
maybe softer than B. I felt B gave a better impression of there being a
reed. The piano was harder to tell apart - it was more just the odd note
that stood out. A bit like the clart, when I felt there was a difference, B
gave more of the impression of vibrating strings. I think that translates
into a bit more top end. I struggled to hear any difference between the mics
with the sax.

Still got your MR2? Swim's has gone now - she got 60 quid for it!! :-)

Somebody got a serious bargain at that price. :) Yep, still got mine.
Brilliant motors - still feels great every time I get into it.

If you're looking for musos for the UKRAnian All Stars, I might be
interested in having a bash at something. Kinda depends on the tune - ie,
whether or not I can improvise something, and on whether I can play a
suitable instrument to a standard that's better than crap. (Is 'rubbish'
better than 'crap'?) I used to be decent at guitar until I stopped playing
about three years ago, I'm crap at piano, and I'm an unknown quantity on
MIDI keyboard plus old Hammond sound module (been meaning to set that up and
plug it into a valve guitar amp to see how it sounds).

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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:54:35 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:



Don't need or want 'stereo' - I work with only two channels in Sound Forge
and need one for the backing, as in this track (mixed down to mono):

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...he%20Child.wav


****e for all I know, but Swim had had that sax for less than a week at
the
time, IIRC and we like it!

Oh go on, sort out a multitrack recorder (isn't there even a free
one?) and let that music fill a bit more space! The organ is crying
out to be in stereo, and a touch of stereo reverb would be lovely on
the sax. Then a bit more of a different reverb overall, just to put
everyone in the same room.



****! You want me to redecorate the living room as well??


Did you play the backing track, or was it bought in?


It's on a 'play along' disk that comes with the music.

I've got to get Swim Bo into the habit of regular practice and playing a lot
better before I burn too many braincells on it all - she bought me a copy of
Sound On Sound at the weekend and I got that 'standing on the edge of a very
deep abyss' feeling while I was flicking through it!

Interesting article about 'analogue warmth' though!

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"Wally" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:

Not a lot in it, but B has the edge for me. I get the impression it's
resolving more detail.

OK, Wally - noted, many thanks! I'll reveal all in due course.

Caveat - I listened on my cheapo "Advent" brand headphones. On those, I
thought the clarinet was easiest to tell apart. Mic A sounded rounder or
maybe softer than B. I felt B gave a better impression of there being a
reed. The piano was harder to tell apart - it was more just the odd note
that stood out. A bit like the clart, when I felt there was a difference,
B
gave more of the impression of vibrating strings. I think that translates
into a bit more top end. I struggled to hear any difference between the
mics
with the sax.


OK, thanks for that.



Still got your MR2? Swim's has gone now - she got 60 quid for it!! :-)

Somebody got a serious bargain at that price. :)


No they didn't - it died and was scrapped!

I reckon the cam belt went and bent the valves - it had lost all power and
there was no compression on the three cylinders the garage guy could reach!
Thought about you as I handed two (spare) rear wheels with good tyres om to
a scrap dealer last week!


Yep, still got mine.
Brilliant motors - still feels great every time I get into it.

:-)




If you're looking for musos for the UKRAnian All Stars, I might be
interested in having a bash at something.


Aha!! :-)


Kinda depends on the tune - ie,
whether or not I can improvise something, and on whether I can play a
suitable instrument to a standard that's better than crap.


I thinks the tune depends upon what instruments/performers are available!


(Is 'rubbish'
better than 'crap'?)


Rubbish is good - it's a start!


I used to be decent at guitar until I stopped playing
about three years ago, I'm crap at piano, and I'm an unknown quantity on
MIDI keyboard plus old Hammond sound module (been meaning to set that up
and
plug it into a valve guitar amp to see how it sounds).


OK, so what do you think would be the best to have a go with? We live in an
'endless multitracking age' so the more instruments the better, if you are
multi-facetted!! Iain's the Bandleader (as well as mixing engineer and
producer) - I'm sure he can scrape summat suitable together when he knows
what he's got to work with!

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"Keith G" wrote


I reckon the cam belt went and bent the valves



You know what I mean - I'm supposed to be watching a movie....

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Keith G wrote:

I reckon the cam belt went and bent the valves - it had lost all
power and there was no compression on the three cylinders the garage
guy could reach!

Ah well. Plenty of the older ones still around, so their owners will get
bits.


Thought about you as I handed two (spare) rear
wheels with good tyres om to a scrap dealer last week!

They likely wouldn't have fitted. I believe Swim's was a rev1, which had
smaller brakes than mine, and smaller wheels around them. The rev2 had
bigger brakes and wheels, and they then stayed that size through the rest of
the revisions. In any case, mine has 17" aftermarket jobbies and low profile
widies.



OK, so what do you think would be the best to have a go with? We live
in an 'endless multitracking age' so the more instruments the better,
if you are multi-facetted!! Iain's the Bandleader (as well as mixing
engineer and producer) - I'm sure he can scrape summat suitable
together when he knows what he's got to work with!

In terms of competence, guitar is what I should be doing, I guess. I've
never been a jazzy player - haven't got a clue what chord shapes they use,
but I could probably do a passable solo. If the tune's a standard, I could
listen to few versions of it, and get an idea of what sort of solo tends to
get played. As I said, though, I've had a hankering to trying some Hammond
sounds on my keyboard - would have to be something at a fairly easy tempo. I
have no idea about picking tunes to suit sax or clarinet, but I can jam
along with most stuff, so I'm open to suggestions.

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"Wally" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:

I reckon the cam belt went and bent the valves - it had lost all
power and there was no compression on the three cylinders the garage
guy could reach!

Ah well. Plenty of the older ones still around, so their owners will get
bits.


It was one of those scrap deals (60 quid) where you get a 'certificate' to
say the car is taken off the road. Swim Bo didn't want to see it drive past
her, she'd had it from brand new - 18 years or more!




Thought about you as I handed two (spare) rear
wheels with good tyres om to a scrap dealer last week!

They likely wouldn't have fitted. I believe Swim's was a rev1, which had
smaller brakes than mine, and smaller wheels around them. The rev2 had
bigger brakes and wheels, and they then stayed that size through the rest
of
the revisions. In any case, mine has 17" aftermarket jobbies and low
profile
widies.


OK. Good.




OK, so what do you think would be the best to have a go with? We live
in an 'endless multitracking age' so the more instruments the better,
if you are multi-facetted!! Iain's the Bandleader (as well as mixing
engineer and producer) - I'm sure he can scrape summat suitable
together when he knows what he's got to work with!

In terms of competence, guitar is what I should be doing, I guess. I've
never been a jazzy player - haven't got a clue what chord shapes they use,
but I could probably do a passable solo.


The way these 'band' pieces go is everyone gets to step forward and solo at
some point and of course that can be tailored to suit the player's ability.



If the tune's a standard, I could
listen to few versions of it, and get an idea of what sort of solo tends
to
get played. As I said, though, I've had a hankering to trying some Hammond
sounds on my keyboard - would have to be something at a fairly easy tempo.


Call me daft but I like a little 'Hammond' - especially in the backing! :-)

I
have no idea about picking tunes to suit sax or clarinet, but I can jam
along with most stuff, so I'm open to suggestions.



Well, it's over to Iain now - he'll see this before we're aboot tomorrow!

We're calling it a day some way into Transformers 2 right now - absolute
******** but so *visual* and eye-catching on a big screen at 1080p!!

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On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:59:29 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

****! You want me to redecorate the living room as well??

Well, I was getting to that. It DOES sound a bit live. Could you
manage carpets, bookshelves and some soft furnishings? Should break
the reflections up a bit.

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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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Treat yourself to a pair of these too
http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_em700_stereoset.htm


A colleague of mine has bought and returned several
pairs of T-Bones He said to me drily, "They last about
as long as a tank of diesel" The Neumann will outlast
us all

Iain

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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:22:26 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

We're talking about the UKRAinian All Stars here - sinners, beginners,
learners and sundry other low-wage earners, not the bloody Philharmonic!!

I play like crap often enough by mistake, without SETTING OUT to play
like crap :-)