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Wally January 30th 10 01:58 PM

Cognitive dissonance?
 
Keith G wrote:

The way these 'band' pieces go is everyone gets to step forward and
solo at some point and of course that can be tailored to suit the
player's ability.


Yep.


Call me daft but I like a little 'Hammond' - especially in the
backing! :-)


Yeah, nothing fancy - smooth chords with little twiddles on the Leslie and
vibrato to run with the feel of the tune.

Got the keyboard and sound module set up, and I've been reminding myself how
to get the various sounds. (The module is a Hammond GM-1000, and the
keyboard is a CME UF7 76-key jobbie.) I stuck it in front of the piano, so I
can't get to that now, which means any keyboard meanerings will be on the
organ instead. The octaves are slightly smaller on the keyboard and the
action is quite different, so it will pay to get some playing time in on it.

I plugged it into the hifi, and it all seems to sound quite Hammondy. It may
well be easier to run a cable from the hifi to the computer than messing
about with mics. An alternative is to record on minidisc, either DI'd or
using mics. Still to drag the guitar amp out and sort out some cabling.
It'll be interesting to see how its EQ affects the sound. Also want to try
it with the amp's distortion on to see if I can get Jon Lord and Caravan
sounds (for my own interest - probably not suited for jazzy standard stuff).




Iain Churches[_2_] January 30th 10 02:02 PM

Cognitive dissonance?
 

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:17:01 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:04:38 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

Is your Martin a D1?

How did you guess? It is the R version with the rosewood back.


It's the one I would have chosen:-)
Congratulations!'


And here it is.


Where?





Iain Churches[_2_] January 30th 10 02:07 PM

Cognitive dissonance?
 

"Wally" wrote in message
...

I plugged it into the hifi, and it all seems to sound quite Hammondy. It
may
well be easier to run a cable from the hifi to the computer than messing
about with mics. An alternative is to record on minidisc, either DI'd or
using mics. Still to drag the guitar amp out and sort out some cabling.
It'll be interesting to see how its EQ affects the sound. Also want to try
it with the amp's distortion on to see if I can get Jon Lord and Caravan
sounds (for my own interest - probably not suited for jazzy standard
stuff).



Do you have a drawbar marked "Wild Bill Davis" ?
If so, pull it out fully:-)

I've got you down for at least one chorus, Wally, and will post
a link to short demo version of the tune in its own thread as
soon as time permits. What about a second chorus on guitar?

Iain





Don Pearce[_3_] January 30th 10 02:07 PM

Cognitive dissonance?
 
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:02:37 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:17:01 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:04:38 +0200, "Iain Churches"
wrote:

Is your Martin a D1?

How did you guess? It is the R version with the rosewood back.

It's the one I would have chosen:-)
Congratulations!'


And here it is.


Where?


Sorry, I'll put the light on

http://www.soundthoughts.co.uk/look/martin.jpg

d

Laurence Payne[_2_] January 30th 10 04:49 PM

Cognitive dissonance?
 
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:36:51 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

Not surprising with floor to ceiling glass on two opposite walls!


So remind me - you're buying expensive microphones to record in this
space WHY? :-)




Principally, to encourage my Significant Other to keep up with the clarinet,
piano and now the alto sax - which was her idea alone!!


So all you really needed was a Neumann label? :-) You could have got
one that said "U87" and she'd have practiced even more!

Laurence Payne[_2_] January 30th 10 04:50 PM

Cognitive dissonance?
 
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:58:09 -0000, "Wally" wrote:

Call me daft but I like a little 'Hammond' - especially in the
backing! :-)


Yeah, nothing fancy - smooth chords with little twiddles on the Leslie and
vibrato to run with the feel of the tune.


Much better in stereo of course :-)

Wally January 30th 10 05:53 PM

Cognitive dissonance?
 
Iain Churches wrote:

Do you have a drawbar marked "Wild Bill Davis" ?
If so, pull it out fully:-)


I'm afraid it only has patches, none of which are called that. :) I'll see
what I can do to approximate it, but the GM-1000's percussive tones don't
have the same bite.


I've got you down for at least one chorus, Wally, and will post
a link to short demo version of the tune in its own thread as
soon as time permits.


Since I have no clue, the title would help in the interim.


What about a second chorus on guitar?


Nah - lets stick with keys for me. I like the idea of playing something I
don't play.





Wally January 30th 10 05:55 PM

Cognitive dissonance?
 
Laurence Payne wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:58:09 -0000, "Wally" wrote:

Call me daft but I like a little 'Hammond' - especially in the
backing! :-)


Yeah, nothing fancy - smooth chords with little twiddles on the
Leslie and vibrato to run with the feel of the tune.


Much better in stereo of course :-)


Indeed. Best sound of the day so far was through the headphones. The guitar
amp wasn't up to much, so that's out.




Keith G[_2_] January 30th 10 06:33 PM

Cognitive dissonance?
 

"Wally" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:

The way these 'band' pieces go is everyone gets to step forward and
solo at some point and of course that can be tailored to suit the
player's ability.


Yep.


Call me daft but I like a little 'Hammond' - especially in the
backing! :-)


Yeah, nothing fancy - smooth chords with little twiddles on the Leslie and
vibrato to run with the feel of the tune.

Got the keyboard and sound module set up, and I've been reminding myself
how
to get the various sounds. (The module is a Hammond GM-1000, and the
keyboard is a CME UF7 76-key jobbie.) I stuck it in front of the piano, so
I
can't get to that now, which means any keyboard meanerings will be on the
organ instead. The octaves are slightly smaller on the keyboard and the
action is quite different, so it will pay to get some playing time in on
it.

I plugged it into the hifi, and it all seems to sound quite Hammondy.



:-)



It may
well be easier to run a cable from the hifi to the computer than messing
about with mics.



Yes, of course.


An alternative is to record on minidisc, either DI'd or
using mics. Still to drag the guitar amp out and sort out some cabling.
It'll be interesting to see how its EQ affects the sound. Also want to try
it with the amp's distortion on to see if I can get Jon Lord and Caravan
sounds (for my own interest - probably not suited for jazzy standard
stuff).



Wally, it sounds like you're getting into it nicely!!





Keith G[_2_] January 30th 10 06:41 PM

Cognitive dissonance?
 

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:36:51 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:

Not surprising with floor to ceiling glass on two opposite walls!

So remind me - you're buying expensive microphones to record in this
space WHY? :-)




Principally, to encourage my Significant Other to keep up with the
clarinet,
piano and now the alto sax - which was her idea alone!!


So all you really needed was a Neumann label? :-)



Ker-ching! :-)


You could have got
one that said "U87" and she'd have practiced even more!



If she practices enough maybe I'd get one!

OK, here's an odd bit of messing around for you:

See this setup:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...kersCorner.JPG

I used it to make this recording:

http://www.moirac.adsl24.co.uk/shown...dRecording.wav

Of this video:

http://vodpod.com/watch/2638678-neum...hone-recording

Allowing for the 'room boom' I think it demonstrates the sound of the
'Cyburg's Needle' speaker quite well if you listen long enough to get used
to it!

:-)





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